Kempton Logopraxis Gathering Summary

Bryn Athyn, Pennsylvania has three F2F LP groups. Seventy miles away in Kempton, Pennsylvania there are two more. We were going to get together on Saturday, January 13th to look at our experience of anxiety and depression in the light of the Heavenly Doctrines. A weather forecast for freezing rain, sleet and snow had us postpone the big event to February 3rd. As it turned out, the roads were good enough, so seven of us who felt set up to meet did. This meeting was in addition to the one we will have in February. Our agenda was to reflect together on how our lives and our LP work are interfacing. Here are some of the points which came forward:

  • The framework becomes more and more meaningful, not less so, as I’ve gotten into LP.
  • It supports my work to read my task over every day.
  • To write something at the end of every day, even if it’s a minuscule amount, opens awareness.
  • Writing a summary consistently results in a valuable re-organization of my viewpoint.
  • The huge gift from LP is the assurance that the Lord can work with me even if, in my insanely busy life, I am NOT following the framework.

Some current states in the group:

  • I’m exiled to anxiety and depression in both LP and regular life: I’m having trouble distinguishing external from internal thoughts. Everything is annoying and I’m full of judgment. I have come through this chaos and ugliness before so there is something deep that is not involved, but it doesn’t make what is on top any less horrible.
  • I’m in a planting time. For now, I am trusting in the framework and just doing what I’m told in humility, waiting til the season of fruit.
  • I don’t have the ‘big love’ you’re supposed to have [for the stories in the Old and New Testaments]. I want to know the stories of the Word as a narrative. That’s the work I am called to now, since this summer. I haven’t done a thing toward it.
  • LP has relieved me of being plagued by a life-long perfectionist dictate.

Some other observations and reflections:

  • Before really taking in the truth that all thoughts and affections flow in from spirits, all thoughts and affections appeared to be my own. Recently it has been quite easy to distinguish the different ‘voices’ of various thoughts and get a distinct idea of where the thoughts are sourced.
  • The intellectual richness of LP satisfies a long-time hunger
  • It’s becoming clearer and clearer that regeneration is the Lord’s work, not mine.
  • Spiritual focus is less and less about what I have to figure out to do, trying to be better.
  • Taking a vacation from doing LP is like being in a desert
  • At the F2F meeting, I am able to hear [and not identify with] the voice in my head which judges with negative assessments.
  • In day to day life, I’m able to identify the good to do in front of me; it’s a better relationship to the concept of ‘use’–it’s being involved in use.
  • Sometimes finding a task in the reading is like inviting a water bucket to be dumped over your head. Other times finding a task teaches the sneaky, hiding quality of evil.
  • I am learning to discern my thoughts: there are times I laughed at what I see; other times I feel squinging pain at what I see. It’s not so painful to discover one is in falsity if one’s intention is for good. But being in evil, not just falsity, brings on a much deeper process. Is the first a temptation of the understanding and is the second a temptation as to the will?
  • An LP meta-task asks us to trust, trust that there is a God of Wisdom and Love; trust that our states are there to learn from, not identify with (believe in) as being what is permanent. The
    temptation is to doubt that the process we are in is a process. The temptation is to believe the Word is not working.
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Sarah Walker
Sarah Walker(@rallss)
3 years ago

I came across this number in my preparation for this cycle’s task and it dovetails so well with this other number on vastation/shattering. Not sure where else to post it, or even if it will be helpful to anyone but for what it’s worth I’ll put it here. 2819. As regards the Lord’s temptations in general, some were more external and some more internal; and the more internal they were, the more grievous. The inmost ones are described by the Evangelists (Matt. 26: 37-39, 42, 44; 27:46; Mark 14:33-36; 15:34; Luke 22:42-44); but see what has been said before respecting… Read more »

Sarah Walker
Sarah Walker(@rallss)
3 years ago

Thank you so much. I’ve been letting these comments sit in my mind over the last week. Many states and thoughts here that I can relate to. I came a cross a new translation of “vastation” the other day – “shattering”. I connected with this new much more than the old ( ironically) and it also connected ( for me) with some of the states described here and also that are often brought up in our submissions. I perceive that i go through this “shattering” again and again as each falsity or evil is challenged -and in a different way… Read more »

Gray Glenn
Gray Glenn(@glenng)
Reply to  Sarah Walker
3 years ago

Wow, We could take this foot note as a study guide, all those specific references! Wow again. It’s so good to have all these states described. Then, when we are in the states, and we can recall that they ARE described, it allows a little distance in; a little sense, “Oh yeah, this process has this part, too. The Lord has provided forewarning so I can trust that the process is going somewhere, I can trust.”
I’m going to print this footnote out to help me recall–thanks, Sarah