The Third Round: The Text describes the states of the ‘persons’ flowing in

Arcana Coelestia

6183. ‘And you are to carry me out of Egypt’ means so that there may be a raising up from factual knowledge. This is clear from the meaning of ‘carrying me’ as a raising up (for when people pass from Egypt to the land of Canaan they are said ‘to go up , which means a raising up, 3084, 4539, 4969, 5406, 5817, 6007; and the same is meant by ‘carrying someone there out of Egypt’); and from the meaning of ‘Egypt’ as factual knowledge, dealt with already. A brief statement must be made to explain what a raising up from factual knowledge is.

The regeneration of the natural is effected by an instilling of spiritual life from the Lord through the internal man into the known facts residing in the natural (this instilling has been the subject in the present chapter). But once a person has been regenerated thus far, and if he is the kind whose regeneration can go further, he is raised up from the exterior to the interior natural, which is subject to the direct control of the internal man. But if he is not that kind of person, his spiritual life exists in the exterior natural. The raising up is effected by a withdrawal from sensory impressions and factual knowledge and so by a raising up above them, and then the person comes into a state of interior thought and affection; thus interiorly he is raised into heaven.

People who attain this state are in the internal Church, whereas those who attain only the first state are in the external Church. The latter are represented by ‘Jacob’, the former by ‘Israel’. It was therefore so that Jacob might be Israel, and so that spiritual good present in the interior natural – thus the internal spiritual Church – may thereby be represented by him as Israel, that these words were uttered by Jacob.
 

Heaven and Hell

284. He who has not experienced the peace of heaven cannot perceive what the peace is in which the angels are. As man is unable, as long as he is in the body, to receive the peace of heaven, so he can have no perception of it, because his perception is in what is natural. To perceive it he must be able, as to thought, to be raised up and withdrawn from the body and kept in the spirit, and at the same time be with angels. In this way has the peace of heaven been perceived by me, and therefore I am able to describe it. Yet because human words are inadequate, I cannot describe in words that peace in itself but only as it is in comparison with that rest of mind experienced by those who are content in God.
 

Arcana Coelestia

1259. There is something further to be said about ‘nations’ meaning goods and evils within worship: In most ancient times people dwelt distinguished into separate nations, families, and houses, as stated already, in order that the Church on earth might represent the Lord’s kingdom where all people are distinguished into communities, those communities into larger ones, and these into still larger, all these distinctions existing according to general and specific differences of love and faith, about which see 684, 685. Thus the Lord’s kingdom is similarly distinguished so to speak into houses, families, and nations. This is why ‘houses, families, and nations’ in the Word means the goods that stem from love and its derivative faith, where also a careful distinction is made between nations and people. ‘Nation’ means good or evil, but ‘people’ truth or falsity.

 
 
Third Round posts are short audio clips taken from Round 3 comments offered in the online Logopraxis Life Group meetings. The aim is to keep the focus on understanding the Text in terms of its application to the inner life along with reinforcing any key LP principles that have been highlighted in the exchanges.

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