ACV8S29-Len #6454…”Whatever is in the natural, and especially what is in the exterior natural, is obscure in comparison with what is in the interior natural, and still more so in comparison with what is in the rational (n. 6451, 6453). But this obscurity becomes clear in two ways; first, if the exteriors are brought into compliance with the interiors, and thus into correspondence; secondly, if the man can be elevated from the exterior to the interior things, and thus to see the exterior things from what is interior……….but neither the one nor the other is obtained except through regeneration from… Read more »
Mandy Millar
June 7, 2023 9:32 pm
Jeremiah 39:17-18 I will rescue thee in that day, rescuing I will rescue thee; but thy soul is to thee for a spoil, because thou hast trusted in Me. Principle: From the Lord through what is celestial is deliverance from the hells. Task: While in a state of obscurity to connect and see how the text applies, trust in the Lord/Word despite external appearances. Submission: I was drawn to Psalm 23: Psalms 23 1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3… Read more »
John Talbot
June 7, 2023 5:17 pm
Logopraxis 6439 to 6465 6439 ‘He will seize in the morning; he will devour the spoil’ means that the deliverance takes place when the Lord is present. ‘And at evening he will divide the plunder’ means their possession in the Lord’s kingdom, while they are in obscurity. 6442 (2) From all these quotations it is evident that ‘prey’, ‘spoil’, and ‘plunder’ mean the rescue and deliverance of the good by the Lord. ‘The truth that ‘Benjamin’ represents is said to be what rescues and delivers, because power is an attribute of truth,… though it derives such power from good. 6443… Read more »
6454. But that obscurity can be made into clear light in two ways: 1 If exterior things are made subservient to interior ones and are thereby brought into agreement with them, and 2 If the person can be raised from exterior things to interior ones and so can see exterior things from an interior standpoint.
Principle: Universal laws control the consequences of actions so if you are in alignment with these laws you will be living life with greater consciousness.
Task: Attune both to the words I say, and also to the energy behind the words.
Judy & Len Robinson
June 3, 2023 11:20 am
ACV8S29-Judy #6451-2,3…..”[2] In man there is what is inmost, there are interior things under the inmost, and there are exterior things. All these are most exactly distinct; they succeed in order, thus from the inmost down to the outermost; according to the order in which they succeed, they also flow in; hence it is that life flows through the inmost into the interiors, and through the interiors into the exteriors, thus according to the order in which they succeed; and it does not rest except in the ultimate of order, where it stops. And as the interior things flow in… Read more »
Observations: Working with the Text drew me to the idea of ‘obscurity’. Obscurity is the default position. Wakefulness, which is maybe its opposite, requires “work”. Wakefulness is also fiercely opposed by the proprial states in action. “Work” involves returning to the Text with questions, the willingness to look to a higher/deeper level of understanding and most importantly the willoingness to see and recognise what is being offered. The Text shows the way and explains the process-it is the process-it is. It, the Lord, alone, has the power to save!! and the Text revealed how this occurs: *when He is present… Read more »
6451 [3] As all the interiors are together in the ultimate, therefore the appearance is as if life were in the ultimate, that is, in the body; when yet it is in the interiors, nor yet there, but in the highest, that is, in the Lord, from whom is the all of life. Hence also it is that life in the exteriors is obscure compared with life in the interiors; for in the exteriors the life is general, coming forth from the influx of many, nay, of innumerable things from the interiors, which appear together and in general. 6454 Whatever… Read more »
I have been working on opening my mind to spiritual ideas. Reading The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho helped me to keep my head alert to correspondences and the deeper side of life. I have also been receiving spiritual healing and practicing self healing techniques. These help me to be much more aware, more often, of the links with the deeper things behind this natural body of mine. I have started to read my old teenage diaries and been cringing at how wrapped up I was in myself. I tried to be helpful in the family but was so unaware of what… Read more »
Liz Coggins
May 29, 2023 12:18 pm
6451: ….as the subject being treated of here and in what follows is the gathering or coming forth of spiritual good (Israel) in the goods and truths of the natural (sons)…[2]In man there is what is inmost, there are interior things under the inmost, and there are exterior things. All these are most exactly distinct; they succeed in order, thus from the inmost down to the outermost….And as the interior things flow-in according to order down to the ultimate, and there stop, it is evident that the interior things are together in the ultimate. Principle: All power is in ultimates.… Read more »
Observation: This whole reading seems to be talking about an incredible order – of levels and of qualities that form the structure of Reality…..Truths and Goods of finer and finer degree, leading to “successive formations”. The task started out with trying to be awake to specific thoughts and actions in my external life, and sensing the qualities of the structure sitting behind each. Of, in a specific way, recognising the nature of the ultimate action or thought, while trying to hold to the sense of any internal influences. And it’s been very general and obscure…..but there is a gradual recognition… Read more »
Janna King
May 27, 2023 6:06 am
6439. Verse 27. Benjamin is a wolf; he shall seize in the morning, he shall devour the spoil, and at evening he shall divide the prey. “Benjamin,” signifies the truth of the good of the spiritual church, which is “Joseph;” “is a wolf,” signifies the eagerness to rescue and deliver the good; “he shall seize in the morning, he shall devour the spoil,” signifies that when the Lord is present it shall be done; “and at even he shall divide the prey,” signifies their possession in the Lord’s kingdom, when they are still in obscurity. TASK: What does it mean… Read more »
AC 6451 … life in the exteriors is obscure compared with life in the interiors; for in the exteriors the life is general, coming forth from the influx of many, nay, of innumerable things from the interiors, which appear together and in general. Principle: This made me think about how person, place, time and space details are generals and when shared in an LP submission they feel general but when we work to find universals in what is being illustrated – then when these are shared back – then things actually become more specific as each in the group can then… Read more »
6368: From the Lord through what is celestial is deliverance from hell. 6443: They who are being elevated into heaven are at first in obscurity; for they cannot come to clearness until they have been in heaven, and have been instructed with respect to truths by the Lord through the angels, into whose society they are sent; for there is need of time in order that the obscurity induced by falsities may be dissipated. Charity 2: In so far as anyone does not look to the Lord and shun evils because they are sins, he remains in them. Man is… Read more »
ACV8S29-Len #6454…”Whatever is in the natural, and especially what is in the exterior natural, is obscure in comparison with what is in the interior natural, and still more so in comparison with what is in the rational (n. 6451, 6453). But this obscurity becomes clear in two ways; first, if the exteriors are brought into compliance with the interiors, and thus into correspondence; secondly, if the man can be elevated from the exterior to the interior things, and thus to see the exterior things from what is interior……….but neither the one nor the other is obtained except through regeneration from… Read more »
Jeremiah 39:17-18 I will rescue thee in that day, rescuing I will rescue thee; but thy soul is to thee for a spoil, because thou hast trusted in Me. Principle: From the Lord through what is celestial is deliverance from the hells. Task: While in a state of obscurity to connect and see how the text applies, trust in the Lord/Word despite external appearances. Submission: I was drawn to Psalm 23: Psalms 23 1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3… Read more »
Logopraxis 6439 to 6465 6439 ‘He will seize in the morning; he will devour the spoil’ means that the deliverance takes place when the Lord is present. ‘And at evening he will divide the plunder’ means their possession in the Lord’s kingdom, while they are in obscurity. 6442 (2) From all these quotations it is evident that ‘prey’, ‘spoil’, and ‘plunder’ mean the rescue and deliverance of the good by the Lord. ‘The truth that ‘Benjamin’ represents is said to be what rescues and delivers, because power is an attribute of truth,… though it derives such power from good. 6443… Read more »
6454. But that obscurity can be made into clear light in two ways: 1 If exterior things are made subservient to interior ones and are thereby brought into agreement with them, and 2 If the person can be raised from exterior things to interior ones and so can see exterior things from an interior standpoint.
Principle: Universal laws control the consequences of actions so if you are in alignment with these laws you will be living life with greater consciousness.
Task: Attune both to the words I say, and also to the energy behind the words.
ACV8S29-Judy #6451-2,3…..”[2] In man there is what is inmost, there are interior things under the inmost, and there are exterior things. All these are most exactly distinct; they succeed in order, thus from the inmost down to the outermost; according to the order in which they succeed, they also flow in; hence it is that life flows through the inmost into the interiors, and through the interiors into the exteriors, thus according to the order in which they succeed; and it does not rest except in the ultimate of order, where it stops. And as the interior things flow in… Read more »
Observations: Working with the Text drew me to the idea of ‘obscurity’. Obscurity is the default position. Wakefulness, which is maybe its opposite, requires “work”. Wakefulness is also fiercely opposed by the proprial states in action. “Work” involves returning to the Text with questions, the willingness to look to a higher/deeper level of understanding and most importantly the willoingness to see and recognise what is being offered. The Text shows the way and explains the process-it is the process-it is. It, the Lord, alone, has the power to save!! and the Text revealed how this occurs: *when He is present… Read more »
6451 [3] As all the interiors are together in the ultimate, therefore the appearance is as if life were in the ultimate, that is, in the body; when yet it is in the interiors, nor yet there, but in the highest, that is, in the Lord, from whom is the all of life. Hence also it is that life in the exteriors is obscure compared with life in the interiors; for in the exteriors the life is general, coming forth from the influx of many, nay, of innumerable things from the interiors, which appear together and in general. 6454 Whatever… Read more »
I have been working on opening my mind to spiritual ideas. Reading The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho helped me to keep my head alert to correspondences and the deeper side of life. I have also been receiving spiritual healing and practicing self healing techniques. These help me to be much more aware, more often, of the links with the deeper things behind this natural body of mine. I have started to read my old teenage diaries and been cringing at how wrapped up I was in myself. I tried to be helpful in the family but was so unaware of what… Read more »
6451: ….as the subject being treated of here and in what follows is the gathering or coming forth of spiritual good (Israel) in the goods and truths of the natural (sons)…[2]In man there is what is inmost, there are interior things under the inmost, and there are exterior things. All these are most exactly distinct; they succeed in order, thus from the inmost down to the outermost….And as the interior things flow-in according to order down to the ultimate, and there stop, it is evident that the interior things are together in the ultimate. Principle: All power is in ultimates.… Read more »
Observation: This whole reading seems to be talking about an incredible order – of levels and of qualities that form the structure of Reality…..Truths and Goods of finer and finer degree, leading to “successive formations”. The task started out with trying to be awake to specific thoughts and actions in my external life, and sensing the qualities of the structure sitting behind each. Of, in a specific way, recognising the nature of the ultimate action or thought, while trying to hold to the sense of any internal influences. And it’s been very general and obscure…..but there is a gradual recognition… Read more »
6439. Verse 27. Benjamin is a wolf; he shall seize in the morning, he shall devour the spoil, and at evening he shall divide the prey. “Benjamin,” signifies the truth of the good of the spiritual church, which is “Joseph;” “is a wolf,” signifies the eagerness to rescue and deliver the good; “he shall seize in the morning, he shall devour the spoil,” signifies that when the Lord is present it shall be done; “and at even he shall divide the prey,” signifies their possession in the Lord’s kingdom, when they are still in obscurity. TASK: What does it mean… Read more »
AC 6451 … life in the exteriors is obscure compared with life in the interiors; for in the exteriors the life is general, coming forth from the influx of many, nay, of innumerable things from the interiors, which appear together and in general. Principle: This made me think about how person, place, time and space details are generals and when shared in an LP submission they feel general but when we work to find universals in what is being illustrated – then when these are shared back – then things actually become more specific as each in the group can then… Read more »
When the presence of love is perceived- the bird’s struggle transforms into a beautiful flight enveloped in the wind. Love softens everything.
6368: From the Lord through what is celestial is deliverance from hell. 6443: They who are being elevated into heaven are at first in obscurity; for they cannot come to clearness until they have been in heaven, and have been instructed with respect to truths by the Lord through the angels, into whose society they are sent; for there is need of time in order that the obscurity induced by falsities may be dissipated. Charity 2: In so far as anyone does not look to the Lord and shun evils because they are sins, he remains in them. Man is… Read more »