ACV7 S15: AC 5171-5190

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5171. Continuation concerning the correspondence with the Grand Man, here concerning the correspondence therewith of the interior viscera.

To what provinces angelic societies belong may be known in the other life from their situation relatively to the human body, and also from their operation and influx; for they flow into and operate upon that organ or member in which they are, but their influx and operation can be perceived only by those who are in the other life, and not by man unless his interiors are opened to that extent, nor even then unless the Lord gives him a sensitive reflection joined with perception.

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Judy & Len Robinson
Judy & Len Robinson
1 month ago

ACV7S15-Len #5177….”solicitude about the future, when confirmed by act, greatly dulls and retards the influx of spiritual life; for they attribute to themselves that which is of the Divine Providence; and they who do this obstruct the influx, and take away from themselves the life of good and truth.” Task: bring attention to when I am anxious about the future and to acknowledge that this is taking for myself things that are the Lord’s. Observations: Once again it became apparent that the chosen text wasn’t the one to work with and I had to bring attention to the idea around… Read more »

Sher Huss
Sher Huss
1 month ago

Text: 5182: “It is  a fundamental necessity that thought and speech should accord in every member of a community; otherwise a discordance like a disagreeable grating noise is perceived, which strikes harshly on the minds of the others. Moreover everything discordant tends to disunite, and is impure, and must be rejected.” “…cleansing is effected by means of agitations, which are nothing but temptations of various kinds; and afterwards by means of induction into gyres. The first induction into gyres takes place in order that the spirits may be adapted to one another; the second is in order that thought and speech may be… Read more »

Judy & Len Robinson
Judy & Len Robinson
1 month ago

ACV7 S15 – Judy #5179….”spheres from the spiritual world encompass man, agreeing with his life, and that by means of them man is in company with spirits of similar affection,…..” Task: To cultivate an awareness of how I am encompassed by spirits who agree with my affections. Obervsations: The experience was one where a ‘worldly’ event triggered a ‘mirror’ effect where thoughts and affections could be seen. A form of agitation seemed to be taking place where many varied and opposing thoughts and affections were jostling for control and influence. A sphere of turmoil and uncertainty reigned even though appeal… Read more »

Erika Brown
Erika Brown
1 month ago

” In the other life there must be a concord and unanimity of all, in order that they may be one; just as is the case with each and all thing in man, which though everywhere various yet by being of on accord make a one.” Unanimity is a quality of the spiritual societies. Principle Reaction to the text was extreme, I felt at a complete loss and shocked. Although it could be worth exploring what the text meant, I thought the reaction I had to what I thought it meant a better center for the task. Task: How do… Read more »

Sharon Spruell
Sharon Spruell
1 month ago

5177: They who have been solicitous about the future for a long time and confirm by act retard influence of spiritual life and take away from themselves the life of good and truth. And in 5178: As solicitude about things to come is what produces anxieties in man and as such spirits appear in the region of the stomach, therefore anxieties affect the stomach more than the other viscera. as solicitude about things to come is what produces anxieties and man and as such spirits appear in the region of the stomach, therefore anxieties affect the stomach more than the… Read more »

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John Talbot
John Talbot
1 month ago

5182 There are spirallings into which spirits who are recent arrivals in the next life have to be introduced, for the purpose of enabling them to live in the company of other spirits and of enabling them both to speak and think in unison with these. ….The purpose of a first introduction into spirallings is to enable spirits to become adjusted to one another: the purpose of the second is that their thought may accord with their speech; the purpose of a third is that they may all agree with one another in thought and affection; and the purpose of… Read more »

Gretchen & Harald Sandstrom
Gretchen & Harald Sandstrom
1 month ago

Re. AC 5171-90 Correspondence of the Internal Organs with the Grand Man General comment: This was a scary reading –not that we should shun those. Almost no matter where the “in me?” was placed, it was an uh-oh. What type of harrying/spinning/purification will we have to undergo before the final determination is reached (5174) re. the predominance of good vs. evil that will send us into the blood or the latrine? Task/focus: AC 5180 concerning the sucking spirits and genii: In my interactions with others, note whether my intention is to know their thoughts so as to become attached to them, or to be… Read more »

Michael Chester
Michael Chester
1 month ago

5178: when man is no longer solicitous about the future, or when everything turns out well for him so that he no longer is fearful of any misfortune, the region about the stomach is relieved and expands, and he feels delight.

Task: Dance spontaneously to music each day to enhance a sensitivity to feeling the flow of life within the body.

Gray Glenn
Gray Glenn
1 month ago

Parts of the reading have possible indications for group life:   5282 …cleansing is effected by means of agitations, which are nothing else than temptations of various kinds; and afterward by means of introduction into circles. The first introduction into circles takes place in order that the spirits may be accommodated together; the second is in order that the thought and speech may be in accord; the third is that the spirits may agree together as to thoughts and affections; and the fourth is that they may agree in truths and goods.   After (perhaps some years of) agitations in… Read more »

Sarah Walker
Reply to  Gray Glenn
1 month ago

Oh I LOVE this insight into the application for how we meet in our LP groups. Thank you so much for sharing it !

Sarah Walker
1 month ago

AC 5178. It is for this reason also that when such anxieties obsess the mind, the region about the stomach is constricted, and at times pain is felt there, and the anxieties also seem to rise up thence; and hence also it is that when man is no longer solicitous about the future, or when everything turns out well for him so that he no longer is apprehensive of any misfortune, the region about the stomach is relieved and expands, and he feels glad. AC 5182Moreover, everything discordant tends to disunite, and is impure, and must be rejected. This impurity… Read more »

Sarah Walker
Reply to  Sarah Walker
1 month ago

well when I set my task I was already in the depths of an agitation of future anxieties and I thought “oh here we go- this cycle is going to be one of those really difficult ones”. and I kinda braced myself and said a lot of prayers…… and then the unexpected happened… It was a week of peace and gentleness and delight. It just goes to show.. you never know what state the Text of the Word is going to bring forth. It was like all of the weeks working in Chapter 40 were the agitations and this last… Read more »

Fred Braakman
Fred Braakman
1 month ago

Chosen text: 5173 [2] That the castigation and purifying of the blood, serum, and chyle, and of the food in the stomach, correspond to such things in the spiritual world, cannot but seem strange to those who think of nothing else in natural things than what is natural, and especially to those who believe in nothing else, thus denying that there is or can be anything spiritual within natural things that acts and rules; when yet the truth is that in all and each of the things in nature and her three kingdoms there is an inward active force from… Read more »

Louise Gardam
Louise Gardam
1 month ago

Arcana Coelestia #5171-5190.
Continuation Concerning the Correspondence with the Grand Man, Here Concerning the Correspondence therewith of the Interior Viscera.

Work Focus: Each evening reread a few pages of the section. Focus on a type of spirit described. Capture a quote about the nature of that type. Then write about how I see this spirit IN ME.

Louise Gardam
Louise Gardam
Reply to  Louise Gardam
1 month ago

Submission: Quite a variety of spirits and states here~~~ and quite a variety in me! < I have seen the gift of speech without meditation— occasionally. When it was needed in a situation the LORD provided it through me. < I saw repeatedly how necessary internal agitation is. < I like to know people’s hearts. Why? To be close, yes, to love them better which is good— but mixed– because it is about me. < I saw the critical spirit in me— especially with my near and dear. Not kind! But this spirit is helpful in seeing my own failings.… Read more »

Siri Hurst
Siri Hurst
1 month ago

This session has to do with the Grand Man and Correspondence with the interior viscera. The various organs and the societies associated with them in the other life are described. No 5177. They who have been very solicitous about the future appear in the region of the stomach. No. 5178 “solicitude about things to come is what produces anxieties in man…” The task asks that notice when I am anxious about the future and how that anxiety is manifested in my body. And then when I am no longer fearful of any misfortune, how my body responds in a more… Read more »

Ruth Duckworth
Ruth Duckworth
1 month ago

5185. There are spirits who relate to the Pancreatic, Hepatic, and Cystic Ducts, and consequently to the biles in them, which the intestines cast out. These spirits are of different kinds, but act in consort according to the state of those to whom the working is directed. They present themselves chiefly at chastisements and punishments, which they desire to direct. The worst of them are so stubborn that they are not willing to desist unless deterred by fears and threats; for they dread sufferings, and then promise anything. They are those who in the life of the body have clung… Read more »

Ruth Duckworth
Ruth Duckworth
Reply to  Ruth Duckworth
1 month ago

There was so much to grab my attention in this passage. I am very interested in the human body and how it functions. What my overall feeling was after studying this was an amazement at how the Lord has a place somewhere in the Grand Man for everyone who has some charity and love for other people, even though this is sometimes on quite an external level. I struggled with my task to not correct others at times. I concentrated to trying to help people but then when my awareness was down, I caught myself directing or criticising others. Sometimes… Read more »

Liz Coggins
Liz Coggins
1 month ago

5177: .“…solicitude about the future, when confirmed by act, greatly dulls and retards the influx of spiritual life; for they attribute to themselves that which is of Divine providence; and they who do this obstruct the influx, and take away from themselves the life of good and truth.“ Work focus/Task: There is a constant inclination, a seduction almost, of my proprium to assume power and control, and – partly because of the falsity of this – to create anxiety about the future, and to forget the Divine providence. Another disfunction between the outer and the inner, where outer states dominate.… Read more »

Ian Keal
Ian Keal
2 months ago

I really struggled to find a task in this session. After some praying a little light went on. What followed was a stream of ideas which led me to see that this portion of inter chapter material relates back to the series in Divine Providence 21 through 26 on the subject of the union of good & truth in “others” through Equilibrium, Related Sequence & Purification, ..as well as the numbers in HH 589 thru 603, referenced in DP 23. AC 5174 It is known that the food in the stomach is agitated in many ways, in order that its… Read more »

Janna King
Janna King
Reply to  Ian Keal
2 months ago

5177. “They who have been very solicitous about the future, and especially they who have therefore become grasping and avaricious, appear in the region where the stomach is. .. because solicitude about the future, when confirmed by act, greatly dulls and retards the influx of spiritual life; for they attribute to themselves that which is of the Divine Providence;” This number warns of the ugly outcome of compulsive worrying. In this next number Swedenborg offers a demonstration of remedial behavior that can be adopted when we employ truth from the Word. ” I once observed an anxious feeling in the… Read more »